Hopsin Talks "New" Eminem

Some of the stuff on Hell The Sequel is wack, but there is also a few sick tracks.

My favourite tracks off the album are Welcome To Hell, Above The Law, Echoes and Fast Lane

Ain't really a big Em fan these days at all...i'll always check his new shit out but nothin really suprises me anymore

AwesomeMan0710 wrote:I am one of the many people who still like eminem. I admit his old shit was better lyrically, but now his shit has better subject matter most of the time. I like that he raps about emotional angst, cuz i be relatin to some shit.

This. To be honest, I prefer the suject matters he's been picking up since his comeback to his previous ones. I really like "Recovery" and I personnally don't have any problems with his "current" delivery or voice. I can't wait for his next solo album, I'm really excited.

As someone who thinks Eminem in his prime was the greatest rapper to touch a mic, I agree with Hopsin. Eminem got rich and lost his hunger. I don't like any of his new stuff. The Eminem Show was the last great album he would ever have....

I'm not sure why Hopsin had to diss Eminem though. It seems like he could have stayed quiet and not burned that bridge.

And shout out to Hopsin for knowing who Conceited, Mook and Lux is. I can tell he watches Grindtime, KOT and Smack battles.

union410 wrote:As someone who thinks Eminem in his prime was the greatest rapper to touch a mic, I agree with Hopsin. Eminem got rich and lost his hunger. I don't like any of his new stuff. The Eminem Show was the last great album he would ever have....

I'm not sure why Hopsin had to diss Eminem though. It seems like he could have stayed quiet and not burned that bridge.

And shout out to Hopsin for knowing who Conceited, Mook and Lux is. I can tell he watches Grindtime, KOT and Smack battles.

that was defenatly not "dissing" eminem.

Matt Meyer wrote:

union410 wrote:As someone who thinks Eminem in his prime was the greatest rapper to touch a mic, I agree with Hopsin. Eminem got rich and lost his hunger. I don't like any of his new stuff. The Eminem Show was the last great album he would ever have....

I'm not sure why Hopsin had to diss Eminem though. It seems like he could have stayed quiet and not burned that bridge.

And shout out to Hopsin for knowing who Conceited, Mook and Lux is. I can tell he watches Grindtime, KOT and Smack battles.

that was defenatly not "dissing" eminem.

Eminem would take it as a diss to be told that anyone would kill him on a track and that he started rapping for money. Eminem is a battle rapper at heart. Hopsin is great, but he has no business saying anything negative about Eminem especially when anyone can see that he was heavily influenced by him.

"Em is stuck in whack mode." is a diss.

union410 wrote:

Matt Meyer wrote:

union410 wrote:As someone who thinks Eminem in his prime was the greatest rapper to touch a mic, I agree with Hopsin. Eminem got rich and lost his hunger. I don't like any of his new stuff. The Eminem Show was the last great album he would ever have....

I'm not sure why Hopsin had to diss Eminem though. It seems like he could have stayed quiet and not burned that bridge.

And shout out to Hopsin for knowing who Conceited, Mook and Lux is. I can tell he watches Grindtime, KOT and Smack battles.

that was defenatly not "dissing" eminem.

Eminem would take it as a diss to be told that anyone would kill him on a track and that he started rapping for money. Eminem is a battle rapper at heart. Hopsin is great, but he has no business saying anything negative about Eminem especially when anyone can see that he was heavily influenced by him.

Errrh, not to start a flame war, but stating your opinion on someone isn't the same as dissing. What Hop does to Wayne, Soulja Boy, Tyler, Lupe, Drake, Waka and all them is dissing.
Well, that's my opinion.

^ Hopsin definitely wasn't dissing Eminem. He was just stating the obvious. I'm a HUGE Eminem fan, but he's not what he used to be. The skill is still there tho, he's just not using it.

410MaXiMuS wrote:^ Hopsin definitely wasn't dissing Eminem. He was just stating the obvious. I'm a HUGE Eminem fan, but he's not what he used to be. The skill is still there tho, he's just not using it.

That.

So it's obvious to Eminem that he's stuck in whack mode? He knows he's not what he used to be but you're crazy if you think Eminem thinks he is in wack mode. Em still thinks he's the best rapper in the game. He would not agree with anyone telling him that he's stuck in whack mode, especially an underground rapper like Hopsin.

All I'm saying is that Hopsin shouldn't be burning bridges and this may be what he's doing by making negative comments towards Eminem.

union410 wrote:

Matt Meyer wrote:

union410 wrote:As someone who thinks Eminem in his prime was the greatest rapper to touch a mic, I agree with Hopsin. Eminem got rich and lost his hunger. I don't like any of his new stuff. The Eminem Show was the last great album he would ever have....

I'm not sure why Hopsin had to diss Eminem though. It seems like he could have stayed quiet and not burned that bridge.

And shout out to Hopsin for knowing who Conceited, Mook and Lux is. I can tell he watches Grindtime, KOT and Smack battles.

that was defenatly not "dissing" eminem.

Eminem would take it as a diss to be told that anyone would kill him on a track and that he started rapping for money. Eminem is a battle rapper at heart. Hopsin is great, but he has no business saying anything negative about Eminem especially when anyone can see that he was heavily influenced by him.

so because he if influenced by Em he can't say Eminem is wack now?
Fans can say is a rapper they like got wack or lost their touch, etc..

Hopsin is a fan of Eminem not a dickrider. i respect that.

liftthat wrote:

union410 wrote:

Matt Meyer wrote:

union410 wrote:As someone who thinks Eminem in his prime was the greatest rapper to touch a mic, I agree with Hopsin. Eminem got rich and lost his hunger. I don't like any of his new stuff. The Eminem Show was the last great album he would ever have....

I'm not sure why Hopsin had to diss Eminem though. It seems like he could have stayed quiet and not burned that bridge.

And shout out to Hopsin for knowing who Conceited, Mook and Lux is. I can tell he watches Grindtime, KOT and Smack battles.

that was defenatly not "dissing" eminem.

Eminem would take it as a diss to be told that anyone would kill him on a track and that he started rapping for money. Eminem is a battle rapper at heart. Hopsin is great, but he has no business saying anything negative about Eminem especially when anyone can see that he was heavily influenced by him.

so because he if influenced by Em he can't say Eminem is wack now?
Fans can say is a rapper they like got wack or lost their touch, etc..

Hopsin is a fan of Eminem not a dickrider. i respect that.

Hopsin can do whatever he wants. I think you're missing my point. Do you think if Eminem offered him a deal he would accept? Now do you think Eminem would offer a deal if Hopsin was talking negatively about him? That's my only point.

Union does have a point. Hopsin is at the stage where anything he says publically can effect his future relationships with big artists... but on the flipside, Hopsin doesn't need any help from Eminem or anyone else. He's already said he's not even looking for a record deal.

410MaXiMuS wrote:Union does have a point. Hopsin is at the stage where anything he says publically can effect his future relationships with big artists... but on the flipside, Hopsin doesn't need any help from Eminem or anyone else. He's already said he's not even looking for a record deal.

word. i'm sure tech would of loved to had him on the strange label.

union410 wrote:So it's obvious to Eminem that he's stuck in whack mode? He knows he's not what he used to be but you're crazy if you think Eminem thinks he is in wack mode. Em still thinks he's the best rapper in the game. He would not agree with anyone telling him that he's stuck in whack mode, especially an underground rapper like Hopsin.

All I'm saying is that Hopsin shouldn't be burning bridges and this may be what he's doing by making negative comments towards Eminem.

1. he isn't burning any bridges, because that bridge does not exist for him yet.
2. you do relize he said this stuff on tech n9ne's website like 2 years ago?

so who fucking gives a fucking fuck?

Matt Meyer wrote:

union410 wrote:So it's obvious to Eminem that he's stuck in whack mode? He knows he's not what he used to be but you're crazy if you think Eminem thinks he is in wack mode. Em still thinks he's the best rapper in the game. He would not agree with anyone telling him that he's stuck in whack mode, especially an underground rapper like Hopsin.

All I'm saying is that Hopsin shouldn't be burning bridges and this may be what he's doing by making negative comments towards Eminem.

1. he isn't burning any bridges, because that bridge does not exist for him yet.
2. you do relize he said this stuff on tech n9ne's website like 2 years ago?

so who fucking gives a fucking fuck?

Ditto to this.

I love all of Eminem's music but I respect Hopsin's opinion, even though I dont agree with it. A Hopsin feature on Em's next album would make my life, but I know there is zero chance of that happening.

Well, I like Hopsin's music and I've been a big fan of Eminem's for like 9 years now and I think Hopsin's right that he sounds kinda' mainstream now but I mean for someone who talks about the Illuminati in one of his tracks he should know that it was either Eminem selling out or his life. Eminem's not underground, so he can't really do whatever he wants like Hopsin can. Like dissing Rick Ross, Lil' Wayne, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Tyler, The Creator, and Lupe Fiasco--rappers who could probably say shit back, especially TTC and Lupe. Eminem CAN do that but the media would be all over his ass and he'd get a lot of shit for doing so. That's one of the major differences I see from the old and new Eminem: dissing. Eminem used to diss people like ICP, Michael Jackson (RIP), Everlast, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, NSYNC, and Backstreet Boys. Now, he disses people like Kanye West, Michael J. Fox, Slim Roethlisberger, Lady Gaga, Lil' Wayne, Kim Kardashian, Bret Michaels, Sarah Palin, Jessica Simpson, Elvis, Ellen & Portia, Amy Winehouse, Kevin Federline, Jessica Alba, and John Mayer. I still respect Hopsin's opinion, though.

Yea Some of Ems stuff has been pretty whack but he is still dope. Bad Meets Evil was a sick EP

em had to make the classic superstar comeback. love the way u lie is his most viewed vid on youtube, and one of the most viewed in years apparantly. but views doesnt mean shit, he needed to get his money. he sold his soul, sold his story, rehashed it, made a movie. but the movie was the ast good thing he did til five years later with relapse, and then recovery. em as cemeted himself as the goat and if he died today everyone agree. unlike lil wayne, but i love weezy. eminem is timeless, if he died after eminem show or 8 mile there would be no arguement he was the best ever. he had the time to fuck everything up but he needed it to make the comeback i think.

i also think alot of hopsins songs are nfluenced by new em stuff as well as old stuff.

fuck illuminati. im not sure if em is illuminati but i know that song we made you sure is sketchy. em needs to get up on his game and diss kreayshawn, as well as other wack ass mo fos. i heard him get at casey anthony in the bet award cypher i cant wait for the good audio one. i think old eminem is back, but i dont think people necisarily want it. i want real freestyles again, as well as forcedriven songs without the forced metaphors and messages.

but em is the greatest. royce is sick now too, tops em in most their songs together imo

You see the thing is Eminem is pretty much the best in "Mainstream".... any rapper you can say is better than him is most likely not mainstream or USED to be mainstream.

Eminem already did history and had a big impact in Hip Hop.. "New" Eminem and "Old" Eminem are still the same person.. the past is the past and he left a big and positive stamp behind and still is not giving up regardless of skill level..

Most likely if Tupac were still alive he would either (1) lose quality in his music but still stay relevant like Eminem or 2 Similar to the position Nas is right now..

So for A LOT of people he died as the GOAT.... but what if he kept making music would those SAME people give him that title?

Think about that for a sec..

I may agree that Eminem is not the overall best (As of right now) but guess what?
Hes still my favorite rapper....

dope verse

HE grew up his music matured with him...Eminem is my favorite rapper and to me is the best in the game...he has done so much in the game! and recovery was a amazing album! he raps about real shit and lyrically a great album i think hes still on the top of his game and would destroy anybody who dissed him.....and he has to be mainstream cuz he isnt underground....

he made the double syllabal flow famous! and created so many new ways to ryhme