Hopsin Controversy over Kony Post

Go and do some of your own research instead of being sheep and following the crowd, you'll soon find out that this is a pack of misguided truth.

kobrahmusic wrote:Go and do some of your own research instead of being sheep and following the crowd, you'll soon find out that this is a pack of misguided truth.

What? Why do all the negative people just come off as the most ignorant lol?

Can you elaborate on why we are "sheep"? What the fuck could possibly be wrong with spreading Joseph Kony's name out so that people know about him? Please explain...smfh

kobrahmusic wrote:This is the truth right here listen up: Invisible Children began filming this in 2003, the area it was all focused on(northern Uganda) has been free of LRA violence/war for +5 years; the LRA have actually signed a peace accord...
Kony is indeed still out there, but the recruitment of the LRA has went down by 80%, due to the Ugandan military and International crimes court - not due to Invisible children.
Invisible Children are manipulating young crowds (us) with idealistic jargon, by combining a plethora of regional issues and consilidating them all into the one 'mega-issue'. This is in support for America to militarize the region - cause we all know that ends well..
Most of all, these selfless pacifists, Invisible Children Inc are pocketing 70% of donations during their oh-so noble crusade.
In conclusion, all you're all doing is supporting lies. They're manipulating peoples good nature by showing them a 30+ year old conflict, Kony does need to be found, but the Ugandan army and ICC can handle that.

My homie right here. Got a brain and I commend you for that

He shouldn't lose any fans for this... Us bitching about Hopsins post on facebook isn't doing anything against this Kony guy... If you want to do something, go out and donate or whatever, because Hopsins not the enemy here...

On his post people were treating him like he IS Kony, lol.. he didn't know what the fuck it was, he thought it was a rapper at first in the post before it... He didn't make a joke about that shit, all he did is say he didn't want to watch it (unless he made some joke post & deleted it). He is allowed to watch what he wants and turn off what he doesn't, as we all are allowed too. I didn't watch the video either (but I know the gist of it though).

GangusKahn wrote:Dizzy and Hopsin's opinions clashing...Btw thats a long sentence Dizzy.

dude needs to learn how to use periods and pargraphs, damn lol

I'm dying laughing at the fact that Hopsin thought Kony was a rapper LOL

GangusKahn wrote:

kobrahmusic wrote:Go and do some of your own research instead of being sheep and following the crowd, you'll soon find out that this is a pack of misguided truth.

What? Why do all the negative people just come off as the most ignorant lol?

Can you elaborate on why we are "sheep"? What the fuck could possibly be wrong with spreading Joseph Kony's name out so that people know about him? Please explain...smfh

I'm ignorant for doing my own research other than watching a video? lol okay then..

I'll let you know why this video is misleading us all..

People should really start to think with their own minds instead of following what everyone else is doing, that is why I am saying people who have just watched this and haven't gone into further research are sheeple.

I just think people should look into things more other than just watching a video, the video stated that he had 30 thousand followers when if you read some news headlines from a while ago you'll know that it has been reduced to about 1000 thousand.

Read this: http://rt.com/news/us-sending-troops-uganda-179/

It is not essential for this viral campaign going around to stop him. The Us have already sent $45 million in aid to Uganda and one hundred troops, that should be enough. They don't need anymore support, it will just have Uganda littered with US troops.

The thing is though Kony only has about 1000 followers left, it's nothing their own military won't be able to handle. There is no need for the US to get involved with foreign affairs, oil was also found in Uganda not too long ago.

You people, and all these clowns on twitter, facebook and Youtube are being fed lies. There's always two sides to a story. Why you shouldn't inject your money into this :

Invisible Children began filming this in 2003, the area it was all focused on(northern Uganda) has been free of LRA violence/war for +5 years; the LRA have actually signed a peace accord...
Kony is indeed still out there, but the recruitment of the LRA has went down by 80%, due to the Ugandan military and International crimes court - not due to Invisible children.
Invisible Children are manipulating young crowds (us) with idealistic jargon, by combining a plethora of regional issues and consilidating them all into the one 'mega-issue'. This is in support for America to militarize the region - cause we all know that ends well..
Most of all, these selfless pacifists, Invisible Children Inc are pocketing 70% of donations during their oh-so noble crusade.
In conclusion, all you're all doing is supporting lies. They're manipulating peoples good nature by showing them a 30+ year old conflict, Kony does need to be found, but the Ugandan army and ICC can handle that.

Also read this: http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/01/18/the-hunt-for-a-jungle-psychopath/

That's just one of the sources, I done a lot of research as soon as I seen this video. It's undeniable that what Kony is doing is wrong but to get your information of one video that was shot in 2003 shouldn't form your thoughts.

Military intervention will be the result of this though, which is sad because the only thing that will come out of that is money getting wasted and children will die. The U.S. Africa command (Africom) have set out to get him numerous times and the only reason he hasn't been captured is because he used child soldiers as bodyguards, and it will only result in deaths of these kids. So military intervention will further complicate this and no doubt these children will be injured. Sudan's liberation army is highly capable of handling this situation, there is no need for Western involvement. It's always good to raise awareness but to raise it in a way that misinforms people shouldn't happen.

Another thing, The Invisible children support the Sudan Liberation Army who are notoriously accused of looting and raping, after researching this for hours this keeps coming up. Here's a picture to show them with the SLA.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-PnDZmngAhM/Sa_KBGNySiI/AAAAAAAAAJY/uBOfiAysghs/s1600/IMG_2941.JPG

In future people should do their own research instead of getting it of one source, if they did this in this case they will know that the video is misguided truth.

kobrahmusic wrote:

GangusKahn wrote:

kobrahmusic wrote:Go and do some of your own research instead of being sheep and following the crowd, you'll soon find out that this is a pack of misguided truth.

What? Why do all the negative people just come off as the most ignorant lol?

Can you elaborate on why we are "sheep"? What the fuck could possibly be wrong with spreading Joseph Kony's name out so that people know about him? Please explain...smfh

I'm ignorant for doing my own research other than watching a video? lol okay then..

I'll let you know why this video is misleading us all..

People should really start to think with their own minds instead of following what everyone else is doing, that is why I am saying people who have just watched this and haven't gone into further research are sheeple.

I just think people should look into things more other than just watching a video, the video stated that he had 30 thousand followers when if you read some news headlines from a while ago you'll know that it has been reduced to about 1000 thousand.

Read this: http://rt.com/news/us-sending-troops-uganda-179/

It is not essential for this viral campaign going around to stop him. The Us have already sent $45 million in aid to Uganda and one hundred troops, that should be enough. They don't need anymore support, it will just have Uganda littered with US troops.

The thing is though Kony only has about 1000 followers left, it's nothing their own military won't be able to handle. There is no need for the US to get involved with foreign affairs, oil was also found in Uganda not too long ago.

You people, and all these clowns on twitter, facebook and Youtube are being fed lies. There's always two sides to a story. Why you shouldn't inject your money into this :

Invisible Children began filming this in 2003, the area it was all focused on(northern Uganda) has been free of LRA violence/war for +5 years; the LRA have actually signed a peace accord...
Kony is indeed still out there, but the recruitment of the LRA has went down by 80%, due to the Ugandan military and International crimes court - not due to Invisible children.
Invisible Children are manipulating young crowds (us) with idealistic jargon, by combining a plethora of regional issues and consilidating them all into the one 'mega-issue'. This is in support for America to militarize the region - cause we all know that ends well..
Most of all, these selfless pacifists, Invisible Children Inc are pocketing 70% of donations during their oh-so noble crusade.
In conclusion, all you're all doing is supporting lies. They're manipulating peoples good nature by showing them a 30+ year old conflict, Kony does need to be found, but the Ugandan army and ICC can handle that.

Also read this: http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/01/18/the-hunt-for-a-jungle-psychopath/

That's just one of the sources, I done a lot of research as soon as I seen this video. It's undeniable that what Kony is doing is wrong but to get your information of one video that was shot in 2003 shouldn't form your thoughts.

Military intervention will be the result of this though, which is sad because the only thing that will come out of that is money getting wasted and children will die. The U.S. Africa command (Africom) have set out to get him numerous times and the only reason he hasn't been captured is because he used child soldiers as bodyguards, and it will only result in deaths of these kids. So military intervention will further complicate this and no doubt these children will be injured. Sudan's liberation army is highly capable of handling this situation, there is no need for Western involvement. It's always good to raise awareness but to raise it in a way that misinforms people shouldn't happen.

Another thing, The Invisible children support the Sudan Liberation Army who are notoriously accused of looting and raping, after researching this for hours this keeps coming up. Here's a picture to show them with the SLA.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-PnDZmngAhM/Sa_KBGNySiI/AAAAAAAAAJY/uBOfiAysghs/s1600/IMG_2941.JPG

In future people should do their own research instead of getting it of one source, if they did this in this case they will know that the video is misguided truth.

It never said he had 30k followers...It says he's kidnapped 30k kids over 20 years...And how about you post some sources for your information...I'd be interested in reading about it more...You talk like you have been fuckin studying this for years...I call bull shit on most of your facts until I read it myself.

Didn't notice the sources lol....reading them in a min

Stupified wrote:

Lmao!

GangusKahn wrote:

kobrahmusic wrote:

GangusKahn wrote:

kobrahmusic wrote:Go and do some of your own research instead of being sheep and following the crowd, you'll soon find out that this is a pack of misguided truth.

What? Why do all the negative people just come off as the most ignorant lol?

Can you elaborate on why we are "sheep"? What the fuck could possibly be wrong with spreading Joseph Kony's name out so that people know about him? Please explain...smfh

I'm ignorant for doing my own research other than watching a video? lol okay then..

I'll let you know why this video is misleading us all..

People should really start to think with their own minds instead of following what everyone else is doing, that is why I am saying people who have just watched this and haven't gone into further research are sheeple.

I just think people should look into things more other than just watching a video, the video stated that he had 30 thousand followers when if you read some news headlines from a while ago you'll know that it has been reduced to about 1000 thousand.

Read this: http://rt.com/news/us-sending-troops-uganda-179/

It is not essential for this viral campaign going around to stop him. The Us have already sent $45 million in aid to Uganda and one hundred troops, that should be enough. They don't need anymore support, it will just have Uganda littered with US troops.

The thing is though Kony only has about 1000 followers left, it's nothing their own military won't be able to handle. There is no need for the US to get involved with foreign affairs, oil was also found in Uganda not too long ago.

You people, and all these clowns on twitter, facebook and Youtube are being fed lies. There's always two sides to a story. Why you shouldn't inject your money into this :

Invisible Children began filming this in 2003, the area it was all focused on(northern Uganda) has been free of LRA violence/war for +5 years; the LRA have actually signed a peace accord...
Kony is indeed still out there, but the recruitment of the LRA has went down by 80%, due to the Ugandan military and International crimes court - not due to Invisible children.
Invisible Children are manipulating young crowds (us) with idealistic jargon, by combining a plethora of regional issues and consilidating them all into the one 'mega-issue'. This is in support for America to militarize the region - cause we all know that ends well..
Most of all, these selfless pacifists, Invisible Children Inc are pocketing 70% of donations during their oh-so noble crusade.
In conclusion, all you're all doing is supporting lies. They're manipulating peoples good nature by showing them a 30+ year old conflict, Kony does need to be found, but the Ugandan army and ICC can handle that.

Also read this: http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/01/18/the-hunt-for-a-jungle-psychopath/

That's just one of the sources, I done a lot of research as soon as I seen this video. It's undeniable that what Kony is doing is wrong but to get your information of one video that was shot in 2003 shouldn't form your thoughts.

Military intervention will be the result of this though, which is sad because the only thing that will come out of that is money getting wasted and children will die. The U.S. Africa command (Africom) have set out to get him numerous times and the only reason he hasn't been captured is because he used child soldiers as bodyguards, and it will only result in deaths of these kids. So military intervention will further complicate this and no doubt these children will be injured. Sudan's liberation army is highly capable of handling this situation, there is no need for Western involvement. It's always good to raise awareness but to raise it in a way that misinforms people shouldn't happen.

Another thing, The Invisible children support the Sudan Liberation Army who are notoriously accused of looting and raping, after researching this for hours this keeps coming up. Here's a picture to show them with the SLA.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-PnDZmngAhM/Sa_KBGNySiI/AAAAAAAAAJY/uBOfiAysghs/s1600/IMG_2941.JPG

In future people should do their own research instead of getting it of one source, if they did this in this case they will know that the video is misguided truth.

It never said he had 30k followers...It says he's kidnapped 30k kids over 20 years...And how about you post some sources for your information...I'd be interested in reading about it more...You talk like you have been fuckin studying this for years...I call bull shit on most of your facts until I read it myself.

I linked numerous sources. And it also said he used them as rebel soldiers, I have linked many man please read them. What's the point in flaming me when i'm just trying to help? you're a great Moderator :/ call bullshit on my facts all you want but I have been looking up all this shit all day it may not be years but it's more than a 30 minute video. Please take time to go and research it, I don't want to start a flame war because this forum should be a place where people should be able to discuss their opinions without getting flamed. Just take some time to look into all of this and you will learn some more. I trust that you're an open-minded person because you listen to Hopsin so I know you will give it a chance. :)

GangusKahn wrote:Didn't notice the sources lol....reading them in a min

Goodstuff man i'm honestly glad to hear that! And sorry if I came across as flaming anyone or anything like that, I'm just trying to let people know that they should be open-minded on serious subjects like this. Much respect.

kobrahmusic wrote:

GangusKahn wrote:Didn't notice the sources lol....reading them in a min

Goodstuff man i'm honestly glad to hear that! And sorry if I came across as flaming anyone or anything like that, I'm just trying to let people know that they should be open-minded on serious subjects like this. Much respect.

He was at his strongest in 03 with almost 3k followers...Now he has around 1k...Not a big difference really considering the small numbers. 3 million vs 1 million would be huge ofc...but 1000 crazy people tormenting people is still crazy. And that first link you posted had nothing to do with him...Another thing...They have signed peace deals with Kony many times in the past...He never holds up to his promises.

this guy/army needs to be stopped.

Everyone says dumb shit

and Dizzy needs to work on his paragraphing. LOL

HopsinIsDope wrote:

telling fans to suck his dick for gettin mad at his ignorance, hops deff needs a publicist, luckly for me, his music, outways his doucebagery.

Just go to his damn house and force Hopsin to watch the video... if it makes you that mad that 1 guy doesn't have the best opinion on something because he was lazy to watch a 30 min video.

If he really wanted to he could of not post anything regarding that at all and avoid making people feel like he ruined any possibilities of solving any issues...

Some people take Hopsin's status' too seriously. He's right, we're all humans. We all have our own opinions, and he didn't say anything offensive at all in that post. He just said since he doesn't know anything about it, he's not going to watch a 30 minute video. That is understandable, and i'm sure thousands of people have done the same thing.

It's a terrible thing going on, but the people posting about it and spreading it on facebook are just too ignorant for words. Do any of them realize that Uganda isn't the only country that has shit like this going on? In fact, their are probably even worse things happening in other countries, and we aren't doing anything to help them. And "Invisible Children" aren't exactly great people. They take at least 50% (70% apparently) of your money and put it into their own organization, and then give the other 30%-50% to Uganda. What they should be doing is giving 90-100% of all the money that is donated. Don't always believe in what someone tells you if you haven't researched it yourself. None of us have any idea what is going on behind closed doors.

This cleared my head about the whole thing - http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/post/18890947431/we-got-trouble

Kony is deff a bad guy, but its more complicated then i knew and most ppl know, as far as hopsin, i dont agree with telling his fans to suck his dick for the comments of losing respect, he shouldnt of posted about it all, instead of accusing everyone of following some bs fad and not knowing what were talking bout when hes the one who doesnt know anything bout it. aw well, im still excited for Hop Madness haa

kobrahmusic wrote:Go and do some of your own research instead of being sheep and following the crowd, you'll soon find out that this is a pack of misguided truth.

edit..just seen it

check this out..

behh behh behh KONY KONY

30,000 children die a day due to starvation and malnutrition and there is child slavery through out the developing world..

you watch a 30 min documentary with some douche and suddenly u and every 14 y/o girl is a social activists

the video seems like it had good intentions but no one should be subjected to have to wet their pants over it.. after all its supporting US military intervention.. guns and guns

I personally didn't like the video because it had some generic one world government. undertones

I respect hopsin more for saying whatever he wants.. fuck a publicists!!!

Hopsin

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