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Mon 22 Jul 2013 - 23:53
Ill mind 7.... Lmfao now what the hell can he rap about while maintaining a strong message?
Hopsin has a lot of pressure from these things, he has to please fans and still maintain the goals he wants with his music. He can't do something too different and he can't do something too similar.
He can't say something that can't be used against him.. As an artist doing what feels right is not always enough to your fans, it's the sad truth. There are so many things you have to balance out and so many risks you have to take and sometimes you can't do much else than do whatever you want to do as a human. What would you do as Hopsin? What kind of music will you make? Will you let fans get to you? These are questions that can be answered but easier said than done.

I feel like Hopsin is too sensitive to this stuff, a quick peek at his twitter and you'll see what I mean, he just can't accept the fact he can't please everyone and I think he needs to try and get over that. This is something he can either use to his advantage or something that will discourage him to do what he loves.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 0:17
He just needs to go back to making great music. Ill Mind 6 was just not that. Plain and simple.

I think Knock Madness will be good, but I'm starting to have doubts that it will be great or even top RAW.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 0:23
I want a bibel song
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 0:38
He's put so much restriction on his music already. Then you get faggots like the jokerr who twist everything he says and does. Hope he just says fuck it and just makes good songs regardless if a punchline contradicts ill mind 5.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 0:47
I think he just needs to loosen up, he needs to understand that fans are better at demanding then accepting. It's not about making good music or not it's about not letting yourself get torn apart and do what you want to do because regardless of anything if someone doesn't call you out on something someone else will. If he lets it get to him it's going to be harder to have a sense of Identity in his music. Picking apart lines and comparing them to other lines and exaggerating flaws can be done with anything tbh. A good song for some people will still be bad because it contradicts what they prefer from Hopsin. This thread is not about ill mind 6 by the way it's about the situation Hopsin is put in and how it's potentially going to keep happening regardless of his success, it's only holding him back.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 0:55
King wrote:I think he just needs to loosen up, he needs to understand that fans are better at demanding then accepting. It's not about making good music or not it's about not letting yourself get torn apart and do what you want to do because regardless of anything if someone doesn't call you out on something someone else will. If he lets it get to him it's going to be harder to have a sense of Identity in his music.
Well I mean he hasn't released a very good song in years other than Ill Mind 5 and I do think he contradicts himself a lot. When you make music like Ill Mind 5 where you're judging a certain type of person (And I thought he was correct about it), you're going to get judged back.

I like the fact that he's against drugs and that he speaks about it in his music because frankly, kids need to hear that nowadays. But I think he's made his point for now and it really wouldn't be good if he made songs entirely about drugs on KM.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 1:02
Won't be that much of a challenge to top 6.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 1:06
Yeah he does needs to loosen up. Kanye contradicts black skinheads the very next track. Sure some people will point it out but at the end of the day ppl wanna hear good music. This is probably y KM took so long.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 1:08
AlwaysRaw wrote:Won't be that much of a challenge to top 6.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 1:08
Buddie wrote:
King wrote:I think he just needs to loosen up, he needs to understand that fans are better at demanding then accepting. It's not about making good music or not it's about not letting yourself get torn apart and do what you want to do because regardless of anything if someone doesn't call you out on something someone else will. If he lets it get to him it's going to be harder to have a sense of Identity in his music.
Well I mean he hasn't released a very good song in years other than Ill Mind 5 and I do think he contradicts himself a lot. When you make music like Ill Mind 5 where you're judging a certain type of person (And I thought he was correct about it), you're going to get judged back.

I like the fact that he's against drugs and that he speaks about it in his music because frankly, kids need to hear that nowadays. But I think he's made his point for now and it really wouldn't be good if he made songs entirely about drugs on KM.

 I know what you mean but I was not referring to that.
If he made a song like ill mind 4 people would be like "Omg hes such a hypocrite hes a fake christian"
and if he made a song like ill mind 5 "oh this guy is too goody goody and hes alos a hypocrite becau.." and if he made a completely different song "omg hes such a sellout this does not sound like hopsin" Now lets say for this situation all of those songs were dope.. Do you get me now?

 It's virtually impossible for Hopsin to cater to everyone, now if he has a goal to help people through his music would you agree it will be even harder for him? Now that's understandable but in Hopsins case he seems to be easily affected by this leading to him to lose sense of what he came here to do.. possibly even another reason prolonging KM release as bitchnigga said, who knows.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 1:28
King wrote:
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King wrote:I think he just needs to loosen up, he needs to understand that fans are better at demanding then accepting. It's not about making good music or not it's about not letting yourself get torn apart and do what you want to do because regardless of anything if someone doesn't call you out on something someone else will. If he lets it get to him it's going to be harder to have a sense of Identity in his music.
Well I mean he hasn't released a very good song in years other than Ill Mind 5 and I do think he contradicts himself a lot. When you make music like Ill Mind 5 where you're judging a certain type of person (And I thought he was correct about it), you're going to get judged back.

I like the fact that he's against drugs and that he speaks about it in his music because frankly, kids need to hear that nowadays. But I think he's made his point for now and it really wouldn't be good if he made songs entirely about drugs on KM.

 I know what you mean but I was not referring to that.
If he made a song like ill mind 4 people would be like "Omg hes such a hypocrite hes a fake christian"
and if he made a song like ill mind 5 "oh this guy is too goody goody and hes alos a hypocrite becau.." and if he made a completely different song "omg hes such a sellout this does not sound like hopsin" Now lets say for this situation all of those songs were dope.. Do you get me now?

 It's virtually impossible for Hopsin to cater to everyone, now if he has a goal to help people through his music would you agree it will be even harder for him? Now that's understandable but in Hopsins case he seems to be easily affected by this leading to him to lose sense of what he came here to do.. possibly even another reason prolonging KM release as bitchnigga said, who knows.
Oh alright I get what you're saying now lol

But to me, all Hopsin has to do is make good music and the fans will come. There will always be people who hate but if KM turns out to be a great album than he will get recognized for it. He shouldn't worry what the fans want because it's impossible to make everyone happy.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 1:38
Buddie wrote:
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King wrote:I think he just needs to loosen up, he needs to understand that fans are better at demanding then accepting. It's not about making good music or not it's about not letting yourself get torn apart and do what you want to do because regardless of anything if someone doesn't call you out on something someone else will. If he lets it get to him it's going to be harder to have a sense of Identity in his music.
Well I mean he hasn't released a very good song in years other than Ill Mind 5 and I do think he contradicts himself a lot. When you make music like Ill Mind 5 where you're judging a certain type of person (And I thought he was correct about it), you're going to get judged back.

I like the fact that he's against drugs and that he speaks about it in his music because frankly, kids need to hear that nowadays. But I think he's made his point for now and it really wouldn't be good if he made songs entirely about drugs on KM.

 I know what you mean but I was not referring to that.
If he made a song like ill mind 4 people would be like "Omg hes such a hypocrite hes a fake christian"
and if he made a song like ill mind 5 "oh this guy is too goody goody and hes alos a hypocrite becau.." and if he made a completely different song "omg hes such a sellout this does not sound like hopsin" Now lets say for this situation all of those songs were dope.. Do you get me now?

 It's virtually impossible for Hopsin to cater to everyone, now if he has a goal to help people through his music would you agree it will be even harder for him? Now that's understandable but in Hopsins case he seems to be easily affected by this leading to him to lose sense of what he came here to do.. possibly even another reason prolonging KM release as bitchnigga said, who knows.
Oh alright I get what you're saying now lol

But to me, all Hopsin has to do is make good music and the fans will come. There will always be people who hate but if KM turns out to be a great album than he will get recognized for it. He shouldn't worry what the fans want because it's impossible to make everyone happy.
Exactly Thumbs Up 
And I think hes having a hard time with this to this day.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 10:17
imo imoh7 should just him being in his basement like 1&3 spitting shit.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 19:04
Chokey wrote:imo imoh7 should just him being in his basement like 1&3 spitting shit.

I'd like that too, however I think, only his old fanbase would enjoy an imoh like that. His newer fans would probably want something like 5 and 6.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 20:13
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Chokey wrote:imo imoh7 should just him being in his basement like 1&3 spitting shit.

I'd like that too, however I think, only his old fanbase would enjoy an imoh like that. His newer fans would probably want something like 5 and 6.

It sucks cause his older fans are pretty muuch ride or die.. his new fans will drop him if he does one thing they don't like. Too bad he couldn't make Ill Mind 7 for the old fans but who knows.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 20:27
The new fans hate ill mind 6.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 20:38
King wrote:The new fans hate ill mind 6.
Everyone hates it.
Nah just kidding, but the reason I personally have been giving it crap is because it's an Ill Mind, so it's not really a bad song but there's just a lot to criticize about it.
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 20:41
ill minds are supposed to be new and bring something new from hop. this wasnt. i honestly does not know why the "fans" are mad. it has a good hook and he talks against drugs = dickriders jizz all over themself
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Tue 23 Jul 2013 - 20:51
There's nothing wrong with the song, but he should have attacked a new idea, not have a part 2 of one of his old ones.
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Wed 24 Jul 2013 - 1:17
IMOH7 will be him ending his Hiphop career and moving
To Australia 

Or maybe there won't be one
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Wed 24 Jul 2013 - 23:28
I am not even thinking that far ahead , knock madness Comes out day after my birthday and I don't want a hopsin like ill mind 5, I don't mind ill mind 6 

But I mainly want ill mind 3 & 4 hopsin 

Unfortunately this new breed of fans may push him in another direction.  If knock madness doesn't deliver hopsin officially fell off
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Wed 24 Jul 2013 - 23:40
The only thing I'm worried about with this song is that Hop couldn't find anything else to talk about. I really hope we'll be getting new/different content on KM.
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Thu 25 Jul 2013 - 10:55
Buddie wrote:The only thing I'm worried about with this song is that Hop couldn't find anything else to talk about. I really hope we'll be getting new/different content on KM.

That's the problem with a lot of rappers especially Hopsin, in fact I'd go far as to say he hasn't had enough different experience in life to tell so many different stories.
He needs to talk more about his life - being poor, being bullied etc. more personal shit or whatever.
Something he can relate too.
I'm sick of him talking about whack MC's, drugs & The Illuminati.
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